Posted on Wednesday, March 22nd, 2006 at 3:53 pm. About Health Care, Ramblings.

My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2

My handful of readers may recall my recent post in which I expressed my frustration over being unable to obtain my birth control pills through my insurance company’s preferred mail-order pharmacy, Express Scripts. To summarize, I sent them a prescription from my doctor for ortho tricyclen, they chose to fill it with a generic (tri previfem), they are now out of tri previfem, and were stating that they could not fill it now with ortho tricyclen, the original medication indicated in the prescription. The *only solution*, they claimed, was for my doctor to write another prescription, and I could mail it to them. They insisted that once a prescription has been filled, even with a generic of a different name, only that generic can be dispensed.

Okay, so I went to my neighborhood Walgreen’s today, and they confirmed that tri previfem was unavailable. Fine – I will accept that this generic is unavailable for the time being. BUT the first question the pharmacist had for me was – would it be okay to provide me another generic or ortho tricyclen? Ummm, YES, I told her. She warned me that my insurance may not cover it, to which I replied that I didn’t care at this point. So I questioned her – Are you SURE you can fill a prescription with a different generic once it has already been filled with a generic of a different name? Of course, she answered, we do it all of the time. Otherwise when generics are discontinued patients would have to return to their doctors for prescriptions too frequently. EXACTLY. Thank you. I feel vindicated – somebody gets why this was bothering me. Do you ever have those moments when something seems perfectly reasonable or unreasonable to you, but those around you are not bothered by it? And you think – is there something wrong with my brain? Why am I not getting this? Now I feel justified – there is something wrong with the representative and “supervisor” at Express Scripts.

Who knows – perhaps I will go to retrieve my prescription tomorrow and the pharmacist will say – Sorry, I’m a new graduate fresh out of pharmacy school and I didn’t know that I wasn’t supposed to be filling prescriptions this way. Oops. But I will assume for the time being that she knows what she is talking about moreso than a customer sales representative without any medical training.

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  1. 1 angela
    Posted on July 29th, 2006 at 7:08 pm. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    OK. I so see your beef on this one. THIS is why…Express Scripts prefers that you contact your doctor for a new prescription of your birth control or that you talk to your doctor about alternatives. Should they have done something more as you were upset about it? Damn right they should have. Sometimes I want to slug people for being the way they are. I work for them, so I truly understand why you got so pissed off about it. They literally five at least 20 thousand orders a day at those pharmacies…each of those pharmacists needs to check the drug interactions on the order and inspect it before it goes out. Thats why they encourage the patient to get a new script for the retail pharmacy…that way they can talk to thier doctor about the med they are going to get THIS time because the damn drug company is out of the drug. Half the time I get patients screaming at me that how dare we give them a different drug…even though we have permission from their doctor before we do so. I tell you you can’t win either way…but you are right. They should have done something more for you…I’m sorry you had to deal with those two morons.

  2. 2 angela
    Posted on July 29th, 2006 at 7:09 pm. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    I meant to say ship 20 thousand orders…

  3. 3 jodi
    Posted on July 30th, 2006 at 9:18 am. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    Thanks for your feedback, Angela. I could not believe that they would not fill the prescription as it had actually been written by my doctor in the first place! To tell me to return to my doctor to verify that the drug she wrote for was what she actually intended to write for…?! “Dr. C, I was sent to you by my online pharmacy to verify that the ortho tricyclen you wrote for was what you actually meant to prescribe, because my pharmacy won’t fill it.”

  4. 4 Howard Kay
    Posted on July 31st, 2006 at 10:05 am. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    I’m convinced that the people at Express Scripts are grossly incompetent. I have a history of their incompetnce. (Tho note that once a prescription gets into the ES *computers*, then it seems to be handled properly–no doubt because people involvement is minimized at that point.)

    Here’s my latest experience with Express Scripts:

    07/12 – mail a prescription for a skin cream to ES
    07/20 Call to find out where it is; they have no idea, no record of it
    07/27 I get a call from ES saying the prescription has been *received*–not shipped, but *received*

    07/28 (Friday) I call to find out what the story is. For some reason they have to contact the doc who wrote the prescription. I suppose they figure that I forged the doc’s signature or something, or maybe I’m gonna use this ordinary skin cream as a narcotic or something.

    On the plus side, the customer service supervisor kindly offers to upgrade my shipping to overnight. Wonderful: when they get around to filling it a month from now, it’ll ship overnight.

    07/31 I call again to find out where my [prescription is. More empty rhetoric intended to soothe annoyed customers. But still no idea when they will ship it. Nor do they understand sarcasm, as when I ask “do you suppose it will be shipped before the end of August?”

    The alleged customer service supervisor is clearly reading from her script in dealing with me. She’s falling back on the cliches they’ve stockpiled and does not seem to have any real understanding at all of what I’m after.

    The alleged customer service supervisor gives me a somew more blah blah blah about how much they care and assorted lies, aND will upgrade my shipping to overnight–but no idea when the stuff will ship.

    Out of curiosity, I asked “when did you receive this in the mail, and when did you start filling it?” ANSW: Rec’d on 07/21, sent to pharmacy on 07/27. I guess they really were sending it by snail mail….

    I guess that calling the doc’s office to ask “did you really write this?” must be rocket science or somthing, because they still have not done it.

    I’m now waiting for a call back from the supervisor’s supervisor. It should be very interesting to see whether this second-level supervisor has enough brains to depart from the script and actually listen to me. Ahh, what the hell, I’m just a customer, why should they care about me?

    But I *am* gonna write to a whole bunch more people and try to embarrass these people. They’ve earned it. Richly.

  5. 5 Jodi
    Posted on July 31st, 2006 at 4:59 pm. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    Yes Howard, that sounds about right. :) Especially the part about stockpiled cliches. I now pay for prescriptions at my neighborhood Walgreen’s (fortunately I’m young and healthy and only have to buy this one medication, which isn’t terribly expensive) rather than go through Express Scripts. It’s worth it to me to actually get my medication when I need it, and to be face-to-face with a pharmacist who knows what he is talking about.

  6. 6 Anna
    Posted on August 20th, 2006 at 7:37 am. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    That’s severely bizarro. I can understand, I suppose, why they wouldn’t automatically ship you an alternate generic or the brand drug–some patients just can’t handle that, and at a high-volume mail-order pharmacy where you don’t know the patients, don’t have time to call them, and can’t explain what happened to them in person, the conservative approach might logically be to just avoid automatic substitutions on refills. When YOU call THEM about it, though–that’s just silly. Of course, I may also be biased, because for all the convenience and cost-savings mail-order pharmacies can sometimes offer, I still believe it’s best for patients to have the opportunity to interact with a real person.

  7. 7 Casey Applen
    Posted on November 4th, 2008 at 8:06 am. About 'My beef with Express Scripts – Part 2'.

    My experience with Express Scripts has been a nightmare. They dont get quantites right, (never send enough of the prescription), and their side-kick CuraScripts skimmed some of my controlled substance prescription, until I made enough noise for them to make good on it.

    It is through their system of DELAY, and SLOW RESPONSE, and FAILURE TO DELIVER the right quantity as prescribed that is saving insurance companies money.

    They will loose a prescription on a whim, fill it wrong, or pretend to have never gotten it. My general practiction said “they refuse to send them faxes, because they do not response. So now we have to leave that up to the patient.”

    I already had to go to my local pharmacy once to document the quantity sent was wrong. Enough already.

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